Comments on: Let’s talk Feeding Stations https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/ Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:15:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Richard Lembke https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-17194 Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:15:39 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-17194 Feeding outside your hives is a questionable practice. The biggest problem is robbing. Once it starts, It’s very hard to stop . If you use any essential oils in the sugar water (like lemongrass Oil ) they will follow the scent back to the Bee Yard. It doesn’t mater how fare away your feeding station is .They will still smell it at the other hives.
My thoughts on open air feeding —
If the hive has not stored enough honey during the summer to make it threw the winter, —–it is in a bad area for foraging or has other problems that need to be recognized . Feeding weak hives with sugar water is not the solution to the problem . If you had done a fall inspection of there reserves and decided the hive was in bad shape , why didn’t you replace the queen or combine the weak hives with strong ones so there are no winter loses .

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By: Cécile https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-5359 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:20:41 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-5359 In reply to Wendy.

Sugar from GMO beets is bad, but so is maple syrup: the bees cannot digest the solids. When I feed at all, it is always C&H.

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By: Wendy https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-5355 Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:22:30 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-5355 Just wondering what “type” of sugar you are feeding your bees?
Our studies indicate that “beet sugar” is almost always GMO. As almost everyone (including the World Health Org) will now state, GMO crops are bad for the health of people and the environment. Organic cane sugar might be okay, but it’s produced outside of the U.S. We are now offering 100% Certified Organic Maple Sugar – made here in Michigan.
We believe it to be the only SAFE sugar produced here in MI.
If you would like to try some, for you and your bees – just drop us a line – we will provide more information and product.
Best regards,
Wendy

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By: Cécile https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-5313 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:14:47 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-5313 In reply to Blaine Nay.

Hi, Blaine, I googled “where is it illegal to feed honey bees outside?”, and I did not find any *American* State where it is. I found a lot of .au sites, more specifically the District of Victoria, Australia, talking about the original order as well as its many amendments. So I was looking, because I have never heard of such a law in WI.
Where did you see that in the US? I know it is not illegal in WI, where I live. Could you provide us with a list of the States where it is illegal?
To avoid the frenzy that might spark robbing, I place as many feeding stations as possible, about 50-100′ from the hive: When they all congregate around 5 pin holes, they can get a little wild. In the spring, especially, varroas are at the low ebb of their cycle, so you will not infect with varroas at the feeders. I worry more about feeding in the fall: yellow jackets then follow our bees to their hives and will kill the hives to get at the protein in the form of the young brood.
As you know, varroas are ubiquitous in nature. Our bees go foraging and come back infected all the time. Trying to prove that they caught varroa around a feeding pail outside versus in the fields as they have always done would be impossible to prove, me think. If it is the closeness to a sick individual that bothers you, think of the conditions in the hive.
As far as practices that can cause contagion, here are many more offensive things that go on besides feeding them outside:
– Many beekeepers feed their wet frames back, but when you have many, it is hard to remember whose frames are whose, so they do it *approximately*. (they don’t all get their own.)
-Equalizing hives in the Fall: you take from Paul & give to Peter so they all start winter with a healthy amount of stores.
– Look at the reusing of deadouts in which the bees may have crapped inside their hives. You know that they had at least dysentery is not outright nosema.
– Inside feeders that bring in extra moisture and mold may also cause infection.
-Fall feeding in which the bees die in the syrup, and then comes a bad spell of weather and you can’t remove the dead bees. The healthy bees have to feed right next to the molding corpses of their sisters.
-Folks who want to start “on the cheap” and they have a friend of a friend who is getting out of the business and has all that nice equipment, right?
-Splitting hives: you take frames of brood that you hope are healthy and start a new hive: If that brood was infected with varroa, there you go.
Perhaps it is because I’m a woman, I think of a hive as a womb: In feeding them outside, you give them clean syrup, it does not go in the hives. That is a lot more sanitary than all the other doubtful manipulations beekeepers do to their hives, IMHO.

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By: Cécile https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-5299 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:43:31 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-5299 That was the right call. Some folks are worried that setting a couple of feeding stations in the yard may encourage robbing. I have not seen that, although it could probably happen if you have a very weak hive that is open too wide, I suppose: (Bees always prefer honey over syrup. If you have a known weak hive, stay with the reduced entrance and chance feeding it internally).
In the yard, once they stop feeding, remove the syrup: (It might attract wasps, hornets etc.)
In cold areas, feeding outside the hive has another advantages:
1- You do not need to open the hive and risk chilling that young brood.
2- syrup adds a considerable amount of moisture to the hive. That is bad.
3- The ease of feeding a whole apiary versus walk to each hive and mess with it.
4- The ease of the removal: I’ve had a nearly empty bucket get propilised . When I removed it, the top stayed with the hive, the syrup spilled in the hive. What a mess: in the spring, the ants came to lap the syrup that had dripped from that hive. What a mess for the whole year, really. As you guessed, it did not help the girls much either!
5- No drowning: The girls suck from the underside of the bucket where there is no puddling of the syrup.

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By: Blaine Nay https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/lets-talk-feeding-stations/#comment-5272 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 00:25:06 +0000 http://keepingbackyardbees.com/?p=1370#comment-5272 Open feeding is an excellent way to spead disease. consequently, it is prohibited in most of the nation. Fat Bee Man did the craft a huge disfavor when he began advocating this practice. I like the guy. I’ve been in his home and in his apiary. But not everything he teaches is legal or even wise.

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