Comments on: Bees-First Beekeeping: Part I–Mites, Wax, and Sex https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/ Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:41:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: Susan Chernak McElroy https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-35745 Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:44:54 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-35745 In reply to Mike O’Neill.

Mike, I encourage you do dive in. It will be the backyard natural keeper who maintains the wild genetics in bees. I leave all the weeds in my yard, and I have a stunning amount of native pollinators for that gift of weeds. If you are a more hands-off beekeeper, the keeping is minimal and not at all tedious. You only go into the hive a few times a year, if even that. I’d encourage you to find some local bees or seek out a swarm!

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By: Susan Chernak McElroy https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-35744 Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:41:12 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-35744 In reply to marie josee.

You are so welcome! I LOVE showing folks there are different ways to bee!

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By: Mike O'Neill https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-35174 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 22:53:54 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-35174 I watch, in a casual way, the bee’s in my area ( High Desert Area, southern CA) seasonally and have noticed fewer and fewer each year. So far, I’ve seen three distinct types, all around about the same time of year, the only noticeable difference being their size.
I would say they’re all wild bee’s since water in the High Desert communities is seasonally governmental ‘rationed’ as such discourages agricultural ventures and as a result there are minimal flowering plants along the perimeters of watered properties available other than ‘traditional’ front yard landscaping types. Those sources of blossoms are not bad but particularly seasonal and ‘pest control’ services are used by many folks out here due to the occasional spider and scorpion sightings. That can’t bode well for much of anything in the insect world let alone bee’s. So I suspect the majority of feeding is concentrated on native low growing flowering ‘weeds’, again which can be scarce depending on the seasonal rain or not.
I know how valuable bees are to the natural world which most folks take for granted, so I encourage bee’s whenever I can by not trimming my limited landscape plants until their perennial blossoms drop off and certainly not even considering a pest control service.
I had considered the probable tedious activity and responsibility of keeping a natural hive functional in my back yard but haven’t done so because of the ‘slim pickins’ in my neck of the woods. But I appreciate these ‘ how to ‘ articles at least for the knowledge they impart in the event I choose to try my luck at bee-ing.

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By: Cally https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34987 Sat, 08 Oct 2016 19:06:56 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34987 In reply to Susan Chernak McElroy.

Thanks so much for the advice. Interesting – common beekeeper club wisdom is that in early spring, when the bees have moved into the top brood box, rotate the boxes so they are on the bottom and have to build up. You’re saying the opposite which, frankly makes more sense. My hubby has the strong back, so I’ll bring him into this new schema. And will read more about Warre hives. I’ve had two swarms – the first being the most magnificent thing I’d ever seen and especially HEARD in my life!!! It always seemed counter-intuitive to try to stop swarms by ripping out queen cells, etc.

I was lucky enough to hear a talk by Prof. Seeley, who talked about the wild bees in Cornell’s Arnot forest. This is not far from where I live – hope my swarms end up there 🙂

Thanks again for this beautiful approach to beekeeping that so resonates with me.

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By: Susan Chernak McElroy https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34911 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:00:34 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34911 In reply to Cally.

Cally, yes, you can use your equipment and modify it. Easiest thing to do would be to remove frames and pull out the old foundation. Then, the bees could make their own wax. If you wanted to go a few steps further, you could actually remove the sides and bottoms of the frames, and let the bees build out from a top bar. This would sort of look like a large Warre’ hive, and you would work it by the box rather than by the comb, as the side attachments would be pretty extreme (also before you do this, perhaps check with your local ordinances to see if it is legal to keep hobby bees in fixed-frame hives). But if you can do this, the bees will have a MUCH easier time controlling hive temperature and scent.

Bees are less stressed building down than up. Having empty space above them is very unsettling to them, hence, they usually build out upper boxes fast to fill it. If you have a good back, treat your Langs like Warre’s, removing a box from the top in the spring just as the first flow comes on, and then adding a fresh empty beneath them. In this way, you rotate the comb out every three years (If you were running it as a three-stack), and so the wax gets regularly replaced. Also, consider modifying the roof also like a Warre’ hive, making a “quilt box” to fill with shavings, which means the bees never have to deal with cold drops of water condensing down on their heads in the winter.

Keep to three boxes only. Bees survive best in smaller spaces. Remember, swarming is a good thing!

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By: Cally https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34896 Fri, 07 Oct 2016 20:05:57 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34896 I’ve only been keeping bees for three years, but had already moved to your philosophy about bees needing to evolve so that they can co-exist with Varroa. Unfortunately, I, like most new beekeepers, sought advice in the beginning from my local beekeepers’ club. I now have five Langstroth hives, frames with foundation, etc. I’ve lost several hives over winters and finally found a Mennonite beekeeper from whom I have bought splits and queens this year. He has never treated with anything and has an almost 100% survival rate overwintering his nuks. How can I move away from foundation? This year I actually ripped out the foundation/wiring on two brood frames to see what the bees would do. Well the did a wonderful job. What would happen if I slowly moved all my frames to foundation-less? I’ve made an investment in my equipment and am not in a financial situation to be able to ditch it all and go top bar or whatever. Any advice?

And thank you so much for writing this. It’s had to find people who have moved to this philosophy. My mentor (from the beekeepers club) does not agree with me. But he’s lost more bee hives over winter than I, despite his mite treatments.

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By: jay https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34871 Thu, 06 Oct 2016 21:23:25 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34871 In reply to Chris.

a hundred, singular, not hundreds

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By: marie josee https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34693 Mon, 03 Oct 2016 01:35:30 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34693 It make just so much sense!
Truly it make me breathe. I can let them free! I’m a new student and want the best for them .Something I could not feel yet in my journey in beekeeping. Thanks!

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By: Susan Chernak McElroy https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34329 Wed, 28 Sep 2016 04:40:03 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34329 In reply to Chris.

Chris, when money becomes key, livestock always suffers for it. If I had to make my money off of bees, I simply could not do it. Too stressful (especially these days) for the keepers and the bees. So much stress is not sustainable. I think that commercial beekeeping will have to sort itself out and make a lot of changes. But we backyard keepers are so blessed that we have the opportunity NOW to innovate, explore, and find new ways of beeing—and still be able to pay our bills. Our situation is a bit luxurious as our livilihoods do not rest on the shoulders of our bees. But I believe that backyard keepers can and will be the keepers of the chalice of honeybee genetic diversity, and, ultimately, the saviors of these amazing creatures.

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By: Chris https://www.keepingbackyardbees.com/bees-first-beekeeping-part-i-mites-wax-and-sex/#comment-34256 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:06:30 +0000 http://backyardbees.wpengine.com/?p=2833#comment-34256 Had to comment on “Janet Wilson’s” remarks. If she considers from 1852 to today as being “hundreds” of years as to how long the Langstroth hive has been in existence, that is quite a stretch. It was the commercialization of beekeeping that brought many more problems. I wonder if Janet knows that the honey coated foundation that has the hexagon shapes already in-printed is a different size than what the bees prefer to have. This larger size was created by the greedy humans, to force the bees to create bigger bees which means more nectar and….that’s right, more honey (“Show Me The Money”). It created a home for the Varroa. This “twisted” mentality of all branches of farming has created some pretty ugly results. Dairy cows injected to force more milk. Chickens, pigs, etc…crowded to live in a gross inhumane ways. All our old timers are a product of commercialized practices that started in the early 1900’s. A big thank you go out to Susan Chernak McElroy and all you others that say “Our bees, animals, plants and land come first” lets treat them with respect.

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